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19 December 2006 @ 07:28 pm
Silent Hill 5, and the consoles.  
I heard somewhere that they might consider making Silent Hill 5 for the Wii rather than the PS3. (But sadly cannot find the place where I read it. It could have been a rumor anyways)

Anyways though, I was just wondering what you guys would want it on if you had a choice on what console it's on? Since PS3's price tag still makes me cry. Plus, no one has posted in a while, so I thought I'd say something. :3
 
 
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Dan__darkmatter on December 20th, 2006 03:41 am (UTC)
I hope so.

Because I sure as hell won't be getting a PS3 anytime soon. And by anytime soon I mean never.
Dissolvingthethreadofyourloveintheheadlightsstainedecho on December 20th, 2006 04:19 am (UTC)
IMHO, the PS3 is going to bomb. Sony has totally bungled the past 2 years of development, made extravagant promises that have been broken (they didn't even hit their final launch numbers 500,000 in the US, as opposed to the 200,000 that actually were shipped to the US.), and generally treated the gaming consumer public like drooling idiots. Aside from the PS3 being exorbitantly priced due to blu-ray, the first shipment of them is pretty much broken (poor PS1 and 2 emulation, PS1 and 2 games played are extremely jaggy, hi-def tv resolution problems). I really hope Konami considers other platforms and doesn't make SH5 an exclusive for the PS3. I think 360 and Wii versions of SH5 would be great, cause I'm probably going to get one of those two in a few months. :)
chaobell on December 20th, 2006 04:21 am (UTC)
God. That's like asking if I would rather be killed by being mauled by bears, being skinned alive with a cheese grater, or being boiled in oil.

The price tag on the PS3 gives me nightmares, thinking about buying a 360 makes me feel like I need to go wash my hands with lye, and although the Wii is the cheapest of the bunch, I'm still not real sure about it.
Colleen  "the Latest and the Greatest"foolonthehill on December 20th, 2006 04:34 am (UTC)
I will wait for the PS3 to go down in price before I even think of getting one even if that means waiting a good long time to play a new Silent Hill, and this is coming from a girl who bought a PS2 JUST so she could play Silent Hill 2 when it came out.

I do want to get a Wii in fact my husband has said that its my late Xmas gift once we can find one around here, so I would be tickled pink if they brought it for Wii!
curbside prophet: SH: Protector Protect Herbrokenbacktango on December 20th, 2006 04:37 am (UTC)
I don't really care, I just hope it comes out for the PC. I was excited about the Wii but ultimately I've lost all desire to own a next gen console (mainly due to their price).
Whistling Dixielilykane on December 20th, 2006 05:14 am (UTC)
Ideally, the Xbox 360.

I personally don't have a problem with the PS3 (as much as people bitch, $500~$600 dollars for a set up that's worth over a thousand? Um, it's a good deal), but I do fall into that group of people that just don't see a reason to buy a PS3 at launch. I can actually afford one, but it'd just sit there except for PSP downloads :P. But, I wouldn't be surprised if it's on the PS3, and I wouldn't be offended. Actually, it's the most sensible system for the series.

Wii, that rumor about SH5 on the Wii was dispelled the day it came out (it was actually an April's Fool Day-like gag off some Brazilian game site that someone translated as news). For two reasons: 1, the Wii is an overpriced Gamecube and people are paying $200 for the controller and $50 for the console :P...and I personally hate seeing people being ripped off like that, and two, Silent Hill on a Nintendo system would be murder to the series. You saw how well that went over with Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid, right? (Meaning, BOMBED HORRIBLY). I'd like Konami to continue making Silent Hill games, not have it not do well on the Wii. And let's be honest...most of the people bought the Wii this year because it's this year's Tickle-Me-Elmo or Pet Rock. They're not gamers and they're not going to go beyond the few party games that came out at launch because that's all they need :P.

But the game being on the 360 would be perfect. The first Xbox had SH2 and SH4, so it would already have a fanbase established on the 360. Second, the 360 is more affordable than the PS3 (though I still think the PS3 is a better deal). The 360 also does better texture work than the Wii AND the PS3, so all those awesome textures we love about Silent Hill would look so much cooler on the 360. Only problem is that the 360 bombed in Japan, and Konami still needs the game to do well on their home turf.
Dan__darkmatter on December 20th, 2006 07:18 am (UTC)
1) The Wii is more powerful than the Xbox. It is not a GameCube.
2) Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid did not "bomb" on the GameCube.

And considering how well the Wii is selling, to both gamers and non-gamers alike, putting Silent Hill on it could prove to be a success.
Helenblackic on December 20th, 2006 09:24 am (UTC)
and 3) Eternal Darkness on the GC? That game rocked! :)
Whistling Dixielilykane on December 20th, 2006 06:51 pm (UTC)
Just so you know, I loved my GC when I had it.
I'm not trying to start a flamewar or anything, but...

1) The GC wasn't that far and was actually nearly on par with the Xbox. The Wii isn't that much more powerful than the GC nor the Xbox. There's a reason why Nintendo hasn't wanted to spill the exact specs of the Wii, and that reason is because they know they're ripping off people. Nothing against the Wii itself; it's fun and cute (and I love the Wiimote!), but I have the same problem with it that people do with the PS3: it's way overpriced for the technology it's offering.

2) Um, yeah they did. Both RE0 and REMake on the GC were OUTSOLD significantly by Silent Hill 2-4 on the PS2. Hell, the GH version of SH2 beat the snot out of REMake, and GHSH2 didn't even break a quarter of a million sold. RE4 on the PS2 outsold the GC version, unfortunately. Not by much admittedly (only a few thousand the last time I checked), but part of the reason that RE4 was ported to the PS2 was to make up for the losses on the GC. RE4 was a hella expensive game to make, and Shinji Mikami didn't bring in the numbers he promised *shrugs*. Twin Snakes on the GC didn't even remotely come close to that any MGS game on the PS1 and PS2 sold, plus it got really horrid reviews from the fanbase (professional reviews were decent to good, but no one listens to those anymore :().

...And Eternal Darkness, while I liked the game, I hardly call that a reason for Silent Hill to be on the Wii, considering most of the people that own Wiis at the moment aren't going to use it for gaming outside of party games. Silent Hill is hardly a party game for most. Eternal Darkness wasn't exactly a blockbuster and it wasn't exactly a sleeper hit either. It was just...there, as far as sells.
Dan__darkmatter on December 20th, 2006 07:12 pm (UTC)
For the record, I'm not trying to start a flamewar either but...
That doesn't mean the games bombed. They may have not sold as many copies as they had hoped too and Silent Hill 2-4 may have outsold them, but they in no way "bombed." A game has to sell very, very poorly to "bomb" and neither REmake, RE0 or RE4 come close to that.

Saying Silent Hill outselling it means it bombed is like saying Silent Hill 2 bombed because Final Fantasy X outsold it.

Aside from all that, the Wii is a brand new start for Nintendo for brand new things. I'm not saying Silent Hill is going to be on the Wii and, quite frankly, I'd be surprised if it does but I'm not ready to dismiss the idea just yet.
Whistling Dixielilykane on December 21st, 2006 12:51 am (UTC)
Re: For the record, I'm not trying to start a flamewar either but...
Considering the budgets RE0, REMake, and RE4 had compared to the SH games, yeah. They bombed. *shrugs* And to use your FF analogy, most of the FF games have ridiculously huge budgets and luckily bring sales to at least cover the production costs (but they don't necessarily bring in a huge profit because of it...there's a reason why Square was bought out by Enix. Square's a money pit :P).

I mean, there's nothing wrong with that, but considering production costs and companies liking to profit, it just wouldn't be feasible for Konami to bring Silent Hill over to the Wii. At least not at this very moment.
Dash of Ggentlemandash on December 20th, 2006 05:16 am (UTC)
Informative Speech...
I'm not trying to be a douche but I work for the AP and I request copies of Famitsu. A bunch of us gather around when our new issue comes in and we translate it...it's fun. To the point, Konami has already said that SH5 will more than likely be for US first and a good chance it won't be coming to Japan.

A few reasons, the first, Kojima Productions. Sorry to save it but once Kojima broke off Konami and started his own production studio, Konami has been on Hideo Kojima's ass so he keeps making Metal Gear and his new original games for the PS3 and Wii, but also to make sure no one buys him out. To Konami, MGS >>>>>>> all other IPs.

Secondly, interest in SH games in Japan is dropping. It was in a poll in Famitsu if gamers would like SH5, RE5, a new Fatal Frame, or a new IP...SH5 was in last place. Therefore, Konami is weary about SH games...hence why it's an insanely good chance that SH5 will only come out for NA and Euro.

Third, if Konami makes it ONLY for NA/Euro, they need to work on budgets. We don't live in a world now when video games can be made with a couple of bucks. The average cost to make a Japanese game is around 50mil-100mil. You figure $70 bucks for SH5 (remember games are expensive in Japan) and it sells 1 million. So that's $70,000,000 Konami makes from SH5.

Now a better example would be for Final Fantasy XII, the cost $90 when it came out last March. Square sold 2.5 million in the first hour...Square still didn't profit that much from Final Fantasy XII, if that helps on just how much it costs to make games now. In Konami eyes, profits >>>>>>>> happy gamers.

I guess finally, about this Wii, PS3, 360 stuff. If and ONLY if SH5 is being made JUST for NA/Euro, then it will more than likely be on the 360 AND PS3. There is a good chance that the PS3 will have it for a few months before 360 but hey, it's better than nothing. Konami will NEVER make one of their "benchmark" franchises on the Wii. Konami already said that most of their Wii stuff will be new IPs. However, if Konami does make SH5 for Japan as well, then you can bet your ass that it will be PS3 only for a long time.

The main staff will work on the JP SH5 for PS3 and a new team will reprogram it for 360 and make it for NA/Euro. This takes time and MONEY...if the cost is to hight to port to the 360 then Konami will keep it PS3 only. This is the down side with the "next-gen"...each console is a different beast and requires different codes.

Anyways, that's my rant! Like I said, I work for the AP and I'm sorry if I intruded on your conversion. Video games are my life and it's my beat at the AP.

Love and peace,
~Annas
Dash of Ggentlemandash on December 20th, 2006 05:19 am (UTC)
Re: Informative Speech...
Oh, I own all three of them if any of you think this is BS. I pretty much had a working Wii unit at work around the first week of Nov, I went to the Nintendo Event in NYC back in Sept, and I get press reports from the corporations. Trust me, I know my stuff.

L&P
~Annas
I Am Truley Sorry For Your Lotsprescilla_bean on December 27th, 2006 08:16 pm (UTC)
Re: Informative Speech...
best input on the game info I've seen so far. I figured it would be out for the 360 and PS3 since that's what they started doing with the later SH games.
sigthegrey on December 20th, 2006 08:04 am (UTC)
A little part of me feels like I started something.